What’s For Dinner? by James Schuyler

I wrote on Instagram that What’s For Dinner? (1978) was ‘like Ivy Compton-Burnett’s characters leapt forward a century and took to drinking cooking sherry’ and I’m half-tempted to leave my post simply at that. But perhaps I’d better say more.

James Schuyler first crossed my radar as a chance purchase in Hay-on-Wye – I bought, read, and loved his novel Alfred and Guinevere, which is the most realistic portrayal of the way children speak that I’ve ever read. What’s For Dinner? is also chiefly concerned with how people speak – and you hope that it’s not realistic, though it probably is.

The novel opens with a dinner party. Norris and Lottie Taylor have reached the stage of marriage where they ignore and rile each other with equanimity, neither of them discontented and neither of them particularly happy at where life has left them. Coming to visit is the Delehantey family – Bryan and Maureen, their twin teenage sons Nick and Michael, and Bryan’s mother Biddy. They are a ramble of chaos by comparison, proud of their old-fashioned values – which mostly take the form of Bruce being dominant and forever quashing any sign of life from his son, Maureen being houseproud and judgemental, and Biddy sassing them all. (It’s hard not to love Biddy, for all her complaining and martyr complex – she’s one of the few characters unafraid to be exactly herself.)

From the opening pages, we know this is going to be an unsettling but fun journey. The set-up might be quintessentially American Dream of well-off neighbours being neighbourly over apple pie, but everything is always slightly at odds with everything else. The hosting couple bicker while not really listening to each other. The visiting family don’t really want to be there. Nobody hates anybody else, but everybody is mutely exasperated by everyone else.

One of the reason this novel made me think of Ivy Compton-Burnett is how heavily dialogue is used. Here is a section, which also shows Schuyler’s brilliant way of weaving together clichés, antagonisms, banalities, and the disconnect when interlocutors all want to talk about something different:

“Competitive sports,” Bryan said, “make a man of a boy. They prepare him for later life, for the give and take and the hurley-burley.”

“You might say, they sort the men from the boys,” Norris said.

“Do you mean that?” Bryan asked, “or is that one of your sarcasms?”

“It could be both,” Norris said. “I wasn’t much of an athlete, so I have to stick up for the underdog.”

“You ought to take up golf.”

“As the saying goes, thanks but no thanks.”

“Norris always looks trim,” Mag said. “Do you go in for any particular exercise?”

“Just a little gardening. A very little gardening.”

“I thought you had a yardman,” Maureen said, “who came in and did that.”

“We do. But Lottie doesn’t trust him around the roses. No more do I, for the matter of that.”

“Roses,” Biddy said, “the queen of flowers.” She shook out the crocheted maroon throw, so all could see it. “Isn’t this just the color of an American Beauty?” It wasn’t, but if anyone knew it, no one said it.

If a lot of the character work is done through conversation, then it’s bits like those final words that really sold me on What’s For Dinner? – ‘It wasn’t, but if anyone knew it, no one side it’. I love it when an author undercuts his cast, gently ridiculing their pretensions and falsities.

The dinner scene goes on for so long that I wondered if it would be a one-scene novel. But no. We get a clue where What’s For Dinner? might go when Lottie takes a break from socialising to go to the kitchen – and down some wine.

When the second part of the novel begins, Lottie is living in a residential home for alcoholics, trying to be cured. We’re introduced to a wide array of patients and their visiting spouses and families, variously bitter, over-enthusiastic, withdrawn, and brash. The same dialogue-heavy approach continues, but now the characters are even more unhinged and unlikely to speak with anything resembling logic.

Group was in session, and Dr Kearney looked bored. “All right, Bertha,” he said, “you’ve made yourself the center of attention long enough. We’ve all heard your stories of marijuana, music and LSD. You’ve convinced us that you were a real swinger, and you swung yourself right in here.”

“You never talk about your problems, I’ve noticed,” Lottie said, “the things behind your actions. That might be more interesting and helpful. To all of us, not just yourself.”

“My only problem,” Bertha said, “is that I have a family. They’re nice, but they bug me.”

“Bug you?” Mrs. Brice said.

“They let me do anything I want, but all the time I can tell they secretly disapprove. They don’t know what to make of me , but I know what to make of them. Spineless. Nice, but spineless.”

“We haven’t heard much from you, Mrs Judson,” Dr Kearney said.

“I never did talk much,” Mrs. Judson said.

“That’s true,” Sam Judson said. “Ethel was never much of a talker. She shows her feelings in other ways.”

“In other ways?” Norris said. “I’d be interested to hear an example.”

I wondered if Schuyler would be able to sustain the brilliance of his tone with this wider cast and more serious topic, but I needn’t have worried. If there was something particularly excellent about the brittle tension of a dinner party, then there is something equally exhilarating about seeing Schuyler rope more people into the madness. We lose the subtext of a dinner table representing so much more – but he handles both small-scale and crowd dazzlingly. In fact, the only dud note in the novel comes in the scenes of teenagers – either the twin boys together or when we see them with a wider gang. The dialogue doesn’t ring at all true, and let’s just say he falls into a common trap with twins that I complained about the other day. It’s curious, considering how good he can be at conversation between younger children.

Schuyler is apparently best known as a poet. From reading his prose, I really couldn’t guess what his poetry would be like. It seems he only wrote three novels, the third being A Nest of Ninnies, co-authored with fellow-poet John Ashbery. I’m quite sad to have nearly come to the end of his novelistic output, because he is such a lively and piercing writer of prose – but perhaps I should give the poetry a go.

13 thoughts on “What’s For Dinner? by James Schuyler

    • March 21, 2024 at 12:08 pm
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      Excellent!

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  • March 21, 2024 at 4:19 am
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    Do you know, this clever dialogue reminds me a little of Henry Green? What do you think?

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    • March 21, 2024 at 12:08 pm
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      Oh yes, I can see that – maybe particularly Loving, from the ones I’ve read. But less self-conscious IMO.

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  • March 21, 2024 at 9:34 am
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    This sounds wonderful! I have so many NYRB Classics waiting in the TBR, unfortunately this isn’t one of them. I’ll look out for Schuyler, I think I’d really enjoy him.

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    • March 21, 2024 at 12:09 pm
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      I think you would too – either of the NYRB Schuylers tbh

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  • March 21, 2024 at 9:46 am
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    I’d not hear of Schuyler before reading your review but the quotes you cite make me think I would really enjoy his writing. The dialogue is absolutely delightful and I can see why you compare him to ICB.I will definitely be on the look out for his books now.

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    • March 21, 2024 at 12:09 pm
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      Excellent! It is quite a mad ride, but a really entertaining one.

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  • March 21, 2024 at 11:58 am
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    Huh. Well, since I’ve not read IC-B I’m getting a cross between Raymond Carver and Brian Moore from your description!

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    • March 21, 2024 at 12:11 pm
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      Interesting! I haven’t read any Carver, but it definitely feels very different from Brian Moore – whom I love, but in a very different way.

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  • March 25, 2024 at 9:40 pm
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    How have I never come across this before?
    Straight on the list it goes.That dialogue is superb!

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  • March 26, 2024 at 9:10 pm
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    Is it that James Schuyler? Really? I know him as one of the New York School of poets (Frank O”Hara, John Ashbery) the writer of breathtakingly beautiful poems about moments in time but also, alas, one who often had to be hospitalized for serious mental illness. Because of these periods of madness, he never had the career his poetry deserved, although he’s had a bit of a revival recently. I had no idea he wrote novels.

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  • March 26, 2024 at 9:14 pm
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    Really? That James Schuyler? I know him as one of the New York School of poets (Frank O’Hara, John Ashbery), one who wrote breathtakingly beautiful poems about moments in time but who also was often hospitalized for mental illness. Because of this he never had the career of the others, although he has been having a bit more notice recently. He’s a wonderful poet. I didn’t know he wrote novels as well.

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